Here's a brief timeline of events. In the summer of 2016 the CIA came to the Obama White House with information Russia was trying to influence the election. Question is what should he do? (1) would be to share it with the public. In doing so he'd be accused of trying to manipulate the election. (2) Keep his mouth shut until either Hillary or Donald were elected and inform them. He chose the latter. At which point Donald accused Obama and the intelligence agencies of "spying" on him. I don't know where you come from but in my world this would be called "investigating"-- not spying.
Also in my world when agencies of our government are charged with overseeing possible illegal foreign activities yet choose to ignore them they would be in dereliction of duty. I'd even go so far as to say withholding this from the President of the United States or somehow covering it up would be a "treasonous" betrayal to our country.
As far as a "coup" I don't think those making these kind of accusations know it' definition.. A "coup" is an illegal seizure of power. Obviously this never happened. There was no suspension of elections thus allowing Trump becoming president. Makes me wonder if he using these extreme accusations is trying to pull off what he accuses others of.
These are toxic times when the president of the United States accuses congress, the press or anyone who opposes him of "treason". So too I find it frightening when law enforcement investigations are labeled as "spying".
By the time Donald and his cronies are done it will be too late to restore trust with our government. Once trust is broken there will be nothing anyone can say or do no matter who comes after him. Trust not only in government but between people themselves affecting the economy, our status in the world and the rule of law. This country has faced worse times then this, that's for sure. The difference, there always emerged a leader who could unite us. I don't know if we can count on that kind of luck this time. Our trade deficits, national debt and standing in the world simply may be too difficult a task for even the greatest among us to overcome.
This isn't about liking or not liking him and his supporters. This is about people being able to see through both sides of the toxic BS going around these days. Then taking a stand against all forms of negativity. When the people of a nation fail finding commonality it's greatness becomes another chapter in history like many before it.
I wouldn't worry about this much. According to your 'cronies', we're all gonna be dead in about 12 years or so. No harm. No foul.
ReplyDeleteToo bad we're not going to make it that far with this guy still in office 12 years from now after he declares himself ruler for life.
DeleteMy question always has been what probable-cause was presented to a judge to issue a warrant permitting government agents to tap phones and read electronic communications.
ReplyDeleteHere's some links...
DeleteHaaretz.com-- Not the Steele Dossier as Trump Claims
The NYT wrote at the time that Papadopoulos discussing Russian "dirt" on Clinton with an Australian diplomat and that diplomat passing that information to FBI is what “led the FBI to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired.”
Here's a few brief posts from a very extensive accounting
Fact Check.com-- Timeline of Russia Investigation
July 31 — The FBI initiates a counterintelligence investigation after receiving information that Papadopoulos had learned that the Russians obtained “dirt” on Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails.”
Sept. 20 — The official WikiLeaks Twitter account sends Donald Trump Jr. a private direct message. “A PAC run anti-Trump site putintrump.org is about to launch. The PAC is a recycled pro-Iraq war PAC. We have guessed the password. It is ‘putintrump.’ See ‘About’ for who is behind it. Any comments?” A day later, Trump Jr. responds, “Off the record I don’t know who that is, but I’ll ask around.” (Trump Jr. would later release this and other direct messages he exchanged with WikiLeaks on Twitter from Sept. 20, 2016, to July 11, 2017. This message is the first known contact between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks, which the U.S. intelligence community has said was used by Russia as part of its influence campaign to help elect Trump.
Oct. 21 — The FBI receives approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as the FISA court, to monitor the communications of Carter Page, a member of Trump’s foreign policy team.